First Great Western starts a review of rail fares after Osborne statement

Herald Series: Commuter Dominic Utton welcomed the review. Commuter Dominic Utton welcomed the review.

OXFORDSHIRE’S main train company has said it will be reviewing its ticket prices following the Chancellor’s autumn statement.

First Great Western has started the process of re-setting the fares that will apply from January.

Last week, George Osborne announced he was putting an end to above inflation rail fare rises on regulated routes, including on season tickets.

This means the price commuters pay for train tickets will stay flat in real terms – going up only with inflation.

First Great Western managing director Mark Hopwood said: “We welcome the Government's decision to peg regulated fares to inflation, which will also be appreciated by our customers.

“A consequence of the announcement is that all of our fares for travel after January 2, 2014 now have to be recalculated, checked and inputted into the industry fares systems in much less time than it would normally take.

“We will be working around the clock to make that happen.”

The new fares are due to be announced later this month.

In the meantime, tickets purchased for travel after January 2 will continue to be available at current prices.

Dominic Utton, a freelance journalist from Osney Island, Oxford, commutes to London every day.

The 41-year-old welcomed the review but said: “The problem is the service has not got any better.

“You put the prices up if the service gets better.

“But if the service hasn’t it is crazy to put them up.

“It takes a massive amount of your salary if you live in Oxford and commute to London – about £4,000 a year.”

Mr Utton added: “It is good that they are reviewing it.”

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10:45am Thu 12 Dec 13

snert says...

"...First Great Western managing director Mark Hopwood said: “We welcome the Government's decision to peg regulated fares to inflation, which will also be appreciated by our customers..."

Yeah I just bet he welcomes that capping of regulated fares.

So glad I don't do that commute any more. The cost was an absolute joke. I complained to FGW and to Chiltern when I moved house and had to use a different station to get to London and asked how they justified the cost given that a ticket from Bicester to Birmingham, which is roughly the same distance, costs nearly £2000 more a year. I got a politicians answer which was the answer to a question I didn't ask. I was told that the cost to London was heavily subsidised and that keeps the ticket price low and they pass the good value on to me.

Great answer. The problem is that these season tickets don't promote working from home. I work from home 2 days a week so it wasn't cost effective for me to get a season ticket but it was very expensive getting daily tickets. Chiltern said they were traillng a "Carnet style ticket system" which they have now brought in where you buy a ticket that is valid for a period of time and allows a set number of trips to be done any time during that time period. They're not as cost effective as a season ticket.

The cost of travel to London far outweighs the mythical "London weighting" for pay compared to wages outside of London so I will not work there again. It just isn't worth the cost and the amount of time out of my life stuck on a substandard train service.
"...First Great Western managing director Mark Hopwood said: “We welcome the Government's decision to peg regulated fares to inflation, which will also be appreciated by our customers..." Yeah I just bet he welcomes that capping of regulated fares. So glad I don't do that commute any more. The cost was an absolute joke. I complained to FGW and to Chiltern when I moved house and had to use a different station to get to London and asked how they justified the cost given that a ticket from Bicester to Birmingham, which is roughly the same distance, costs nearly £2000 more a year. I got a politicians answer which was the answer to a question I didn't ask. I was told that the cost to London was heavily subsidised and that keeps the ticket price low and they pass the good value on to me. Great answer. The problem is that these season tickets don't promote working from home. I work from home 2 days a week so it wasn't cost effective for me to get a season ticket but it was very expensive getting daily tickets. Chiltern said they were traillng a "Carnet style ticket system" which they have now brought in where you buy a ticket that is valid for a period of time and allows a set number of trips to be done any time during that time period. They're not as cost effective as a season ticket. The cost of travel to London far outweighs the mythical "London weighting" for pay compared to wages outside of London so I will not work there again. It just isn't worth the cost and the amount of time out of my life stuck on a substandard train service. snert

10:46am Thu 12 Dec 13

snert says...

snert wrote:
"...First Great Western managing director Mark Hopwood said: “We welcome the Government's decision to peg regulated fares to inflation, which will also be appreciated by our customers..."

Yeah I just bet he welcomes that capping of regulated fares.

So glad I don't do that commute any more. The cost was an absolute joke. I complained to FGW and to Chiltern when I moved house and had to use a different station to get to London and asked how they justified the cost given that a ticket from Bicester to Birmingham, which is roughly the same distance, costs nearly £2000 more a year. I got a politicians answer which was the answer to a question I didn't ask. I was told that the cost to London was heavily subsidised and that keeps the ticket price low and they pass the good value on to me.

Great answer. The problem is that these season tickets don't promote working from home. I work from home 2 days a week so it wasn't cost effective for me to get a season ticket but it was very expensive getting daily tickets. Chiltern said they were traillng a "Carnet style ticket system" which they have now brought in where you buy a ticket that is valid for a period of time and allows a set number of trips to be done any time during that time period. They're not as cost effective as a season ticket.

The cost of travel to London far outweighs the mythical "London weighting" for pay compared to wages outside of London so I will not work there again. It just isn't worth the cost and the amount of time out of my life stuck on a substandard train service.
"...the cost given that a ticket from Bicester to Birmingham, which is roughly the same distance, costs nearly £2000 more a year..."

I meant £2000 less a year compared to Bicester to London
[quote][p][bold]snert[/bold] wrote: "...First Great Western managing director Mark Hopwood said: “We welcome the Government's decision to peg regulated fares to inflation, which will also be appreciated by our customers..." Yeah I just bet he welcomes that capping of regulated fares. So glad I don't do that commute any more. The cost was an absolute joke. I complained to FGW and to Chiltern when I moved house and had to use a different station to get to London and asked how they justified the cost given that a ticket from Bicester to Birmingham, which is roughly the same distance, costs nearly £2000 more a year. I got a politicians answer which was the answer to a question I didn't ask. I was told that the cost to London was heavily subsidised and that keeps the ticket price low and they pass the good value on to me. Great answer. The problem is that these season tickets don't promote working from home. I work from home 2 days a week so it wasn't cost effective for me to get a season ticket but it was very expensive getting daily tickets. Chiltern said they were traillng a "Carnet style ticket system" which they have now brought in where you buy a ticket that is valid for a period of time and allows a set number of trips to be done any time during that time period. They're not as cost effective as a season ticket. The cost of travel to London far outweighs the mythical "London weighting" for pay compared to wages outside of London so I will not work there again. It just isn't worth the cost and the amount of time out of my life stuck on a substandard train service.[/p][/quote]"...the cost given that a ticket from Bicester to Birmingham, which is roughly the same distance, costs nearly £2000 more a year..." I meant £2000 less a year compared to Bicester to London snert

12:14pm Thu 12 Dec 13

Andrew:Oxford says...

snert wrote:
snert wrote:
"...First Great Western managing director Mark Hopwood said: “We welcome the Government's decision to peg regulated fares to inflation, which will also be appreciated by our customers..."

Yeah I just bet he welcomes that capping of regulated fares.

So glad I don't do that commute any more. The cost was an absolute joke. I complained to FGW and to Chiltern when I moved house and had to use a different station to get to London and asked how they justified the cost given that a ticket from Bicester to Birmingham, which is roughly the same distance, costs nearly £2000 more a year. I got a politicians answer which was the answer to a question I didn't ask. I was told that the cost to London was heavily subsidised and that keeps the ticket price low and they pass the good value on to me.

Great answer. The problem is that these season tickets don't promote working from home. I work from home 2 days a week so it wasn't cost effective for me to get a season ticket but it was very expensive getting daily tickets. Chiltern said they were traillng a "Carnet style ticket system" which they have now brought in where you buy a ticket that is valid for a period of time and allows a set number of trips to be done any time during that time period. They're not as cost effective as a season ticket.

The cost of travel to London far outweighs the mythical "London weighting" for pay compared to wages outside of London so I will not work there again. It just isn't worth the cost and the amount of time out of my life stuck on a substandard train service.
"...the cost given that a ticket from Bicester to Birmingham, which is roughly the same distance, costs nearly £2000 more a year..."

I meant £2000 less a year compared to Bicester to London
£4532 Oxford - London Season Ticket
£4672 Oxford - Birmingham Season Ticket

Not much in it from Oxford. Although if you thought finding a seat on a peak departure from London to Oxford was bad in the evening, you can forget finding a seat at Birmingham New Street.

No "Birmingham" allowance either. My old firm at least paid a £1200 a year "Oxford allowance" and £4000 a year "London allowance".

Last train from Birmingham is around 10pm - so can forget social/networking events without an overnight stay too.
[quote][p][bold]snert[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]snert[/bold] wrote: "...First Great Western managing director Mark Hopwood said: “We welcome the Government's decision to peg regulated fares to inflation, which will also be appreciated by our customers..." Yeah I just bet he welcomes that capping of regulated fares. So glad I don't do that commute any more. The cost was an absolute joke. I complained to FGW and to Chiltern when I moved house and had to use a different station to get to London and asked how they justified the cost given that a ticket from Bicester to Birmingham, which is roughly the same distance, costs nearly £2000 more a year. I got a politicians answer which was the answer to a question I didn't ask. I was told that the cost to London was heavily subsidised and that keeps the ticket price low and they pass the good value on to me. Great answer. The problem is that these season tickets don't promote working from home. I work from home 2 days a week so it wasn't cost effective for me to get a season ticket but it was very expensive getting daily tickets. Chiltern said they were traillng a "Carnet style ticket system" which they have now brought in where you buy a ticket that is valid for a period of time and allows a set number of trips to be done any time during that time period. They're not as cost effective as a season ticket. The cost of travel to London far outweighs the mythical "London weighting" for pay compared to wages outside of London so I will not work there again. It just isn't worth the cost and the amount of time out of my life stuck on a substandard train service.[/p][/quote]"...the cost given that a ticket from Bicester to Birmingham, which is roughly the same distance, costs nearly £2000 more a year..." I meant £2000 less a year compared to Bicester to London[/p][/quote]£4532 Oxford - London Season Ticket £4672 Oxford - Birmingham Season Ticket Not much in it from Oxford. Although if you thought finding a seat on a peak departure from London to Oxford was bad in the evening, you can forget finding a seat at Birmingham New Street. No "Birmingham" allowance either. My old firm at least paid a £1200 a year "Oxford allowance" and £4000 a year "London allowance". Last train from Birmingham is around 10pm - so can forget social/networking events without an overnight stay too. Andrew:Oxford

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