I will sort Oxford United out, says boss Gary Waddock

Gary Waddock in the dug-out on Saturday

Gary Waddock in the dug-out on Saturday

First published in Sport Herald Series: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Sports Reporter covering Oxford United. Follow us on twitter: @oxfordmailoufc. Call me on 01865 425458

A FUMING Gary Waddock slammed Oxford United’s “losing culture” as their faint play-off hopes evaporated amid a tame surrender to Accrington Stanley.

Although results elsewhere meant even a victory would not have been enough, the 2-1 defeat only deepened the gloom around the club.

It was a tenth defeat in 14 outings for a side which had been in the Sky Bet League Two automatic promotion places in the final week of February.

Waddock has lost six of his seven games in charge and the head coach admitted the 2-0 win at Plymouth this month was the exception in an otherwise miserable run.

He said: “For our supporters, for the chairman and everyone associated with this fantastic football club, that performance is nowhere near what I’m looking for.

“If I’m going to be brutally honest, since I’ve been here Plymouth away was a very good performance and apart from that the performances haven’t been acceptable.

“It will be addressed, make no mistake, because that is not the type of team we want playing for this club.

“At the moment we have a losing culture. We need to change that and it will be changed.”

Accrington, who needed a positive result to rubber-stamp their Football League status, took the lead in controversial fashion, when Michael Raynes appeared to be fouled in the build-up.

But for Waddock it was the ease with which James Gray scored the visitors’ second goal which summed up all United’s problems.

“The lad went through two or three challenges, that’s got nothing to do with confidence – it’s just about desire and you can’t coach that,” he said.

“I wanted to give our supporters something to go into the close season with. They have certainly gone into it with something – but it’s not a Gary Waddock team.

“That’s not the type of team I will build here, it will be completely the opposite. It will be a team that will play with hunger, desire and enthusiasm.

“They will run and work for one another, that didn’t happen on Saturday and it’s only possibly happened once since I’ve been here.”

Defeat means the final league game, the trip to Chris Wilder’s Northampton Town will be a dead rubber for United, something which was unthinkable only a few weeks ago.

“I said to the players they had a wonderful opportunity with the start they had to go into the play-offs or gain promotion,” Waddock said.

“For whatever reason it’s dwindled away.”

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9:51am Mon 28 Apr 14

BigAlBiker says...

Best thing you can do Mr Waddock is lose Hunt, Newey, Raynes, Wroe, Rigg, Smalley, Potter, Rose, Lewis and Melville, when there out of the door resign yourself.

Sorted.
Best thing you can do Mr Waddock is lose Hunt, Newey, Raynes, Wroe, Rigg, Smalley, Potter, Rose, Lewis and Melville, when there out of the door resign yourself. Sorted. BigAlBiker
  • Score: 13

10:07am Mon 28 Apr 14

87oufc says...

I stand by my earlier comment that the players are angry at fans. It further came to me of the feud between, I think it was Jake Wright, and a fan/s. I genuinely feel that the players are purposely playing this bad as a consequence of what happened to Wilder and some of the fans. Thus, we need a clear out.
I stand by my earlier comment that the players are angry at fans. It further came to me of the feud between, I think it was Jake Wright, and a fan/s. I genuinely feel that the players are purposely playing this bad as a consequence of what happened to Wilder and some of the fans. Thus, we need a clear out. 87oufc
  • Score: 16

10:16am Mon 28 Apr 14

LondonOX says...

You can't say its a losing culture when for the vast majority of the season we were in contention for promotion or playoffs at least. Sure we started to struggle in the 2nd half of the season, especially since Wilder left. However when Waddock arrived he has done absolutely nothing to stop the rot. In fact there is a very good argument to suggest he's made it much worse.

I'd like to know how this man was the best out of 72. OM please find out as I'm staggered at how poorly Waddock has done since taking over.
You can't say its a losing culture when for the vast majority of the season we were in contention for promotion or playoffs at least. Sure we started to struggle in the 2nd half of the season, especially since Wilder left. However when Waddock arrived he has done absolutely nothing to stop the rot. In fact there is a very good argument to suggest he's made it much worse. I'd like to know how this man was the best out of 72. OM please find out as I'm staggered at how poorly Waddock has done since taking over. LondonOX
  • Score: 2

10:23am Mon 28 Apr 14

train passenger says...

If I was a player on that team my emotions at the halfway point of the season would have been 'we are being unfairly criticised by a vocal group of fans despite being at the top of the league'. This would then have been followed by seeing my manager leave for reasons little to do with the team's performance. Then they put a bloke in charge who you might call nice but clueless and I see my team go nowhere at all. Then they put a third guy in who does not know me or the club, does not trust me and does not seem to think I am good enough or the right type of player for him, because he didn't bring me in. In a situation like that most people would get very confused and feel very threatened, and I see no reason why the mind of a professional footballer would be any different from anyone else's mind. Not sure how you can reasonably expect people to be at the top of their game under those conditions. But maybe Gary Waddock knows something I don't know.
If I was a player on that team my emotions at the halfway point of the season would have been 'we are being unfairly criticised by a vocal group of fans despite being at the top of the league'. This would then have been followed by seeing my manager leave for reasons little to do with the team's performance. Then they put a bloke in charge who you might call nice but clueless and I see my team go nowhere at all. Then they put a third guy in who does not know me or the club, does not trust me and does not seem to think I am good enough or the right type of player for him, because he didn't bring me in. In a situation like that most people would get very confused and feel very threatened, and I see no reason why the mind of a professional footballer would be any different from anyone else's mind. Not sure how you can reasonably expect people to be at the top of their game under those conditions. But maybe Gary Waddock knows something I don't know. train passenger
  • Score: 33

10:52am Mon 28 Apr 14

London_Ox says...

LondonOX wrote:
You can't say its a losing culture when for the vast majority of the season we were in contention for promotion or playoffs at least. Sure we started to struggle in the 2nd half of the season, especially since Wilder left. However when Waddock arrived he has done absolutely nothing to stop the rot. In fact there is a very good argument to suggest he's made it much worse.

I'd like to know how this man was the best out of 72. OM please find out as I'm staggered at how poorly Waddock has done since taking over.
Hear Hear LondonOx.. It's a good job we share the same view..

I'm still going to get the lawyers in for nicking my user name! ;-)
[quote][p][bold]LondonOX[/bold] wrote: You can't say its a losing culture when for the vast majority of the season we were in contention for promotion or playoffs at least. Sure we started to struggle in the 2nd half of the season, especially since Wilder left. However when Waddock arrived he has done absolutely nothing to stop the rot. In fact there is a very good argument to suggest he's made it much worse. I'd like to know how this man was the best out of 72. OM please find out as I'm staggered at how poorly Waddock has done since taking over.[/p][/quote]Hear Hear LondonOx.. It's a good job we share the same view.. I'm still going to get the lawyers in for nicking my user name! ;-) London_Ox
  • Score: 5

11:59am Mon 28 Apr 14

Oxon21 says...

The simple fact is the IL has dropped 2 massive balls here. Firstly he SHOULD have given a wilder another contract. When looking at how he had got the team into a very strong position, there was no reason as to not give him an extension, with clauses in in the event of not making it out of the league.

He then took far too long in appointing a replacement. meaning that any new man comming in would have struglled to get a group of players seriously lacking in confiedence and self belief, to start playing again. These players were running through walls for Wilder - whilst not pretty at times they were grinding our results.

I hope that Waddock is now given the resource and backing needed to put a good young energetic team together, and gets us up next year. This summer could be interesting.
The simple fact is the IL has dropped 2 massive balls here. Firstly he SHOULD have given a wilder another contract. When looking at how he had got the team into a very strong position, there was no reason as to not give him an extension, with clauses in in the event of not making it out of the league. He then took far too long in appointing a replacement. meaning that any new man comming in would have struglled to get a group of players seriously lacking in confiedence and self belief, to start playing again. These players were running through walls for Wilder - whilst not pretty at times they were grinding our results. I hope that Waddock is now given the resource and backing needed to put a good young energetic team together, and gets us up next year. This summer could be interesting. Oxon21
  • Score: 7

12:34pm Mon 28 Apr 14

mervgould says...

The best thing is for the chairman to accept the offer which is on the table (strange Ox Mail is not reporting this) and go off into the sunset with Waddock with him and let a new team have a go.

If the plan when taking on Waddock was to fail WELL DONE you did it
The best thing is for the chairman to accept the offer which is on the table (strange Ox Mail is not reporting this) and go off into the sunset with Waddock with him and let a new team have a go. If the plan when taking on Waddock was to fail WELL DONE you did it mervgould
  • Score: 14

12:45pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Oxokuba says...

I wish had the ability to see the future like the Wilder fans can. I mean he definately would have got us promoted if he had been given a new contract - unlike the time he had a contract for 5 previous years&secured one promotion? Erasing the past three years seems to have elevated Wilder into godlike status. I guess the heroic 14 games it took to get Northampton out of the bottom two now merits manager of the year award ! Wilder of course could have had enough confidence in his ability to stay with us till the end of the season, win promotion and either earn a new contract or put himself in the shop window, but no, he did a runner yet still he is the hero!

Quite possibly the most bizarre argument I've heard in a long time. Wilder is as much to blame as Lewis,Melville, the players and to a lesser extent Waddock. Lenagan has made some big mistakes but letting Wilder go was not one of them. We have a gutless squad,no leaders,an indecisive chairman and an extraordinary ability to shoot ourselves in both feet at the exact same time every season.

One day our ship will come hopefully when it does it will have a durable rudder.
I wish had the ability to see the future like the Wilder fans can. I mean he definately would have got us promoted if he had been given a new contract - unlike the time he had a contract for 5 previous years&secured one promotion? Erasing the past three years seems to have elevated Wilder into godlike status. I guess the heroic 14 games it took to get Northampton out of the bottom two now merits manager of the year award ! Wilder of course could have had enough confidence in his ability to stay with us till the end of the season, win promotion and either earn a new contract or put himself in the shop window, but no, he did a runner yet still he is the hero! Quite possibly the most bizarre argument I've heard in a long time. Wilder is as much to blame as Lewis,Melville, the players and to a lesser extent Waddock. Lenagan has made some big mistakes but letting Wilder go was not one of them. We have a gutless squad,no leaders,an indecisive chairman and an extraordinary ability to shoot ourselves in both feet at the exact same time every season. One day our ship will come hopefully when it does it will have a durable rudder. Oxokuba
  • Score: 2

1:05pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Doctor69 says...

GW i hope you are true to your words about being unimpressed and players having to play for their futures. On the basis of the run since you have been here you should ship them all out, with the exception of Clarke, Mullins and possibly Wright. Kitson will retire.

As a fan I am absolutely sick of this bunch of players, I hope i never see them pull on a yellow shirt again after next Saturdays game at Northampton.

The fans will support you next season, but the results must improve, and quickly. You wont be able to use the excuse of 'not your team' come August.
GW i hope you are true to your words about being unimpressed and players having to play for their futures. On the basis of the run since you have been here you should ship them all out, with the exception of Clarke, Mullins and possibly Wright. Kitson will retire. As a fan I am absolutely sick of this bunch of players, I hope i never see them pull on a yellow shirt again after next Saturdays game at Northampton. The fans will support you next season, but the results must improve, and quickly. You wont be able to use the excuse of 'not your team' come August. Doctor69
  • Score: 18

1:44pm Mon 28 Apr 14

william12 says...

This is what happens when you rely on freebies.Not good enough.The club will have to BUY better players to progress , the reason the players are at oxford not good enough elsewhere.Keep clarke mullins raynes wing {for his battling qaulities it may rub off on who is left] The development sqaud players get rid of the rest.For all of constables energy he misses to many chances.The team needs a fresh start .Give waddock a chance he has inherited a bunch of losers.These players should be busting a gut to play in this proffesion i think for a few this will be the end of their careers in the football league , conference beckons for the majority.
This is what happens when you rely on freebies.Not good enough.The club will have to BUY better players to progress , the reason the players are at oxford not good enough elsewhere.Keep clarke mullins raynes wing {for his battling qaulities it may rub off on who is left] The development sqaud players get rid of the rest.For all of constables energy he misses to many chances.The team needs a fresh start .Give waddock a chance he has inherited a bunch of losers.These players should be busting a gut to play in this proffesion i think for a few this will be the end of their careers in the football league , conference beckons for the majority. william12
  • Score: 4

1:52pm Mon 28 Apr 14

MiddleBartonYellow says...

william12 wrote:
This is what happens when you rely on freebies.Not good enough.The club will have to BUY better players to progress , the reason the players are at oxford not good enough elsewhere.Keep clarke mullins raynes wing {for his battling qaulities it may rub off on who is left] The development sqaud players get rid of the rest.For all of constables energy he misses to many chances.The team needs a fresh start .Give waddock a chance he has inherited a bunch of losers.These players should be busting a gut to play in this proffesion i think for a few this will be the end of their careers in the football league , conference beckons for the majority.
At this level virtually everybody is a freebie aren't they.
[quote][p][bold]william12[/bold] wrote: This is what happens when you rely on freebies.Not good enough.The club will have to BUY better players to progress , the reason the players are at oxford not good enough elsewhere.Keep clarke mullins raynes wing {for his battling qaulities it may rub off on who is left] The development sqaud players get rid of the rest.For all of constables energy he misses to many chances.The team needs a fresh start .Give waddock a chance he has inherited a bunch of losers.These players should be busting a gut to play in this proffesion i think for a few this will be the end of their careers in the football league , conference beckons for the majority.[/p][/quote]At this level virtually everybody is a freebie aren't they. MiddleBartonYellow
  • Score: 14

3:33pm Mon 28 Apr 14

oldun says...

All of the youngsters who are fit must be in the staring X1 . All of our outfield players bar Wing have let us down for weeks . Garbage performances
All of the youngsters who are fit must be in the staring X1 . All of our outfield players bar Wing have let us down for weeks . Garbage performances oldun
  • Score: 9

3:34pm Mon 28 Apr 14

oldun says...

oldun wrote:
All of the youngsters who are fit must be in the staring X1 . All of our outfield players bar Wing have let us down for weeks . Garbage performances
and in the starTing X1
[quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: All of the youngsters who are fit must be in the staring X1 . All of our outfield players bar Wing have let us down for weeks . Garbage performances[/p][/quote]and in the starTing X1 oldun
  • Score: 8

4:26pm Mon 28 Apr 14

swalker260 says...

I for one do not blame Wilder imagine you are him and still waiting for an offer of a new contract even though the team is in the top four, family to look after and fans still not happy. Chairman lets him go to Northampton who are bottom and now look likely to escape relegation
plus last game against us which I don't see any other result but another defeat and CW wins again.
I don't have a crystal ball but losing CW at that time was wrong and then it too long to appoint his replacement.
If we gave CW a contract then things might now be different.
I for one do not blame Wilder imagine you are him and still waiting for an offer of a new contract even though the team is in the top four, family to look after and fans still not happy. Chairman lets him go to Northampton who are bottom and now look likely to escape relegation plus last game against us which I don't see any other result but another defeat and CW wins again. I don't have a crystal ball but losing CW at that time was wrong and then it too long to appoint his replacement. If we gave CW a contract then things might now be different. swalker260
  • Score: 13

5:24pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Open your eyes says...

mervgould wrote:
The best thing is for the chairman to accept the offer which is on the table (strange Ox Mail is not reporting this) and go off into the sunset with Waddock with him and let a new team have a go.

If the plan when taking on Waddock was to fail WELL DONE you did it
Which is what offer?
[quote][p][bold]mervgould[/bold] wrote: The best thing is for the chairman to accept the offer which is on the table (strange Ox Mail is not reporting this) and go off into the sunset with Waddock with him and let a new team have a go. If the plan when taking on Waddock was to fail WELL DONE you did it[/p][/quote]Which is what offer? Open your eyes
  • Score: 4

5:25pm Mon 28 Apr 14

oldun says...

swalker260 wrote:
I for one do not blame Wilder imagine you are him and still waiting for an offer of a new contract even though the team is in the top four, family to look after and fans still not happy. Chairman lets him go to Northampton who are bottom and now look likely to escape relegation
plus last game against us which I don't see any other result but another defeat and CW wins again.
I don't have a crystal ball but losing CW at that time was wrong and then it too long to appoint his replacement.
If we gave CW a contract then things might now be different.
Just a guess (of course) by me - I believe that in this very mediocre standard division, had Chris stayed then we would have ended in a play off position - with a paltry number of points - definitely fewer than 75 points from the 46 matches . About a one in four chance of making it through the play offs. Yep things would have been better - but next season would have been awful - come on IL and GW take us up next season - please get rid of as many of this poor squad as soon as you can
[quote][p][bold]swalker260[/bold] wrote: I for one do not blame Wilder imagine you are him and still waiting for an offer of a new contract even though the team is in the top four, family to look after and fans still not happy. Chairman lets him go to Northampton who are bottom and now look likely to escape relegation plus last game against us which I don't see any other result but another defeat and CW wins again. I don't have a crystal ball but losing CW at that time was wrong and then it too long to appoint his replacement. If we gave CW a contract then things might now be different.[/p][/quote]Just a guess (of course) by me - I believe that in this very mediocre standard division, had Chris stayed then we would have ended in a play off position - with a paltry number of points - definitely fewer than 75 points from the 46 matches . About a one in four chance of making it through the play offs. Yep things would have been better - but next season would have been awful - come on IL and GW take us up next season - please get rid of as many of this poor squad as soon as you can oldun
  • Score: -3

5:27pm Mon 28 Apr 14

LeGod says...

You picked a GREAT MANAGER to keep you down he did the same at Wycombe and got them relegated roll on next season to see you plummet down the leagues.

Happy Days seeing you suffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!

STFC

FOREVER IN OUR SHADOWS
You picked a GREAT MANAGER to keep you down he did the same at Wycombe and got them relegated roll on next season to see you plummet down the leagues. Happy Days seeing you suffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! STFC FOREVER IN OUR SHADOWS LeGod
  • Score: -30

5:59pm Mon 28 Apr 14

remberingthe80s says...

o well told to lot in Jan yet it never listened to
warning you back the team and manager or **** off. you lost us a good manager and if we careful land back in the non league and i can see Northampton in the plays off next year
o well told to lot in Jan yet it never listened to warning you back the team and manager or **** off. you lost us a good manager and if we careful land back in the non league and i can see Northampton in the plays off next year remberingthe80s
  • Score: -6

6:43pm Mon 28 Apr 14

deedee444 says...

Hope wilder takes that useless lump we call a captain next season...Wright has had a sulk on since that fan told him a few home truths ....on ya bike and take ya mates with ya...i'll drive you to Northampton myself.
Wilder had his chance.....not good enough....thanks but........byeeeeeee
Hope wilder takes that useless lump we call a captain next season...Wright has had a sulk on since that fan told him a few home truths ....on ya bike and take ya mates with ya...i'll drive you to Northampton myself. Wilder had his chance.....not good enough....thanks but........byeeeeeee deedee444
  • Score: 3

6:57pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Oxe says...

We need to give up this continuing preoccupation with Wilder. He is totally irrelevant to us now. He was an average manager – not that bad, not that good – who succeeded in achieving one promotion in 5 seasons (whilst other teams from the Conference were immediately promoted again). His time was marked by totally inconsistency – we won a few games and when it seemed that we were about to embark on a good run, we would immediately lose a load of games. It was this total inconsistency which stopped Oxford from ever achieving the promotions that seemed highly likely at various stages in the season and Wilder was never able to find an answer to it. It should also be remembered that his dealings in the transfer market were completely disastrous – we either seemed to get other club’s underperforming rejects, or if they were genuinely potentially good players, he, Lewis and Melville would succeed in coaching them into bad ones. I don’t blame him at all for seeking security for his family, but it was HIS choice to leave – he could have decided to back himself to get us promoted (at which point he would undoubtedly have got the new contract and probably another 5 seasons regardless of subsequent performance) or he could duck the challenge and run for security elsewhere. He chose to run and that probably – as we are discovering now – shows how confident he actually was about ever achieving the promotion with this squad.
We need to give up this continuing preoccupation with Wilder. He is totally irrelevant to us now. He was an average manager – not that bad, not that good – who succeeded in achieving one promotion in 5 seasons (whilst other teams from the Conference were immediately promoted again). His time was marked by totally inconsistency – we won a few games and when it seemed that we were about to embark on a good run, we would immediately lose a load of games. It was this total inconsistency which stopped Oxford from ever achieving the promotions that seemed highly likely at various stages in the season and Wilder was never able to find an answer to it. It should also be remembered that his dealings in the transfer market were completely disastrous – we either seemed to get other club’s underperforming rejects, or if they were genuinely potentially good players, he, Lewis and Melville would succeed in coaching them into bad ones. I don’t blame him at all for seeking security for his family, but it was HIS choice to leave – he could have decided to back himself to get us promoted (at which point he would undoubtedly have got the new contract and probably another 5 seasons regardless of subsequent performance) or he could duck the challenge and run for security elsewhere. He chose to run and that probably – as we are discovering now – shows how confident he actually was about ever achieving the promotion with this squad. Oxe
  • Score: 8

7:25pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Manor Born says...

Wilder has gone, get over it. He built a squad that played bland, negative, slow-tempo football. These players are average league 2 players, nothing more, nothing less. From the day they arrived at the club, they have been coached to play a certain style of football and by the time a replacement was appointed, it was nigh on impossible for said replacement to change that. He wasn't allowed to bring in anyone to strengthen the squad through the loan system and we were left with a squad with little or no confidence who only knew how to play one way. Meanwhile, all our rivals found a little bit of consistency and strengthened their squads. Whilst they were progressing, we were going backwards faster than an Italian tank.

Negative, bland, slow-tempo football will get you so far, it will not take you over the finish line. History has shown this and you can't gloss over the last two full seasons under Wilder where good positions were blown. He has form for it. A good manager to get you out of a hole, but doesn't have the nous to take you to the next step. Remember the season we got promoted from the conference? We went from challenging for top, a dire run post Christmas, but managed to scrape through by the skin of our teeth by getting lucky in the play-offs.

What followed that has been seasons of promise ending in abject failure. Wilder had become stale and tired, he needed a fresh challenge and we needed fresh ideas. Unfortunately we were made to wait two months for those fresh ideas to come by which point the rot had well and truly set in and the decline proved irreversible.

Wilder has gone, he's done the job asked of him for a team that looked doomed. Fair play and good luck to him. We write this season off as the disaster it is and now look to the future. Waddock is saying the right things in terms of what is needed. He now needs to deliver this in the summer. Only then will we truly be able to judge him.
Wilder has gone, get over it. He built a squad that played bland, negative, slow-tempo football. These players are average league 2 players, nothing more, nothing less. From the day they arrived at the club, they have been coached to play a certain style of football and by the time a replacement was appointed, it was nigh on impossible for said replacement to change that. He wasn't allowed to bring in anyone to strengthen the squad through the loan system and we were left with a squad with little or no confidence who only knew how to play one way. Meanwhile, all our rivals found a little bit of consistency and strengthened their squads. Whilst they were progressing, we were going backwards faster than an Italian tank. Negative, bland, slow-tempo football will get you so far, it will not take you over the finish line. History has shown this and you can't gloss over the last two full seasons under Wilder where good positions were blown. He has form for it. A good manager to get you out of a hole, but doesn't have the nous to take you to the next step. Remember the season we got promoted from the conference? We went from challenging for top, a dire run post Christmas, but managed to scrape through by the skin of our teeth by getting lucky in the play-offs. What followed that has been seasons of promise ending in abject failure. Wilder had become stale and tired, he needed a fresh challenge and we needed fresh ideas. Unfortunately we were made to wait two months for those fresh ideas to come by which point the rot had well and truly set in and the decline proved irreversible. Wilder has gone, he's done the job asked of him for a team that looked doomed. Fair play and good luck to him. We write this season off as the disaster it is and now look to the future. Waddock is saying the right things in terms of what is needed. He now needs to deliver this in the summer. Only then will we truly be able to judge him. Manor Born
  • Score: 17

7:33pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Oxokuba says...

LeGod wrote:
You picked a GREAT MANAGER to keep you down he did the same at Wycombe and got them relegated roll on next season to see you plummet down the leagues.

Happy Days seeing you suffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!

STFC

FOREVER IN OUR SHADOWS
Congratulations on emulating our season by missing out on a play off spot due to crap form at the worst time. The Di Canio revolution is just mist floating across an ugly town these days. You were supposed to be in the Championship by now.

The shadow is very thin.
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: You picked a GREAT MANAGER to keep you down he did the same at Wycombe and got them relegated roll on next season to see you plummet down the leagues. Happy Days seeing you suffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! STFC FOREVER IN OUR SHADOWS[/p][/quote]Congratulations on emulating our season by missing out on a play off spot due to crap form at the worst time. The Di Canio revolution is just mist floating across an ugly town these days. You were supposed to be in the Championship by now. The shadow is very thin. Oxokuba
  • Score: 16

7:45pm Mon 28 Apr 14

dave from witney says...

Oxe wrote:
We need to give up this continuing preoccupation with Wilder. He is totally irrelevant to us now. He was an average manager – not that bad, not that good – who succeeded in achieving one promotion in 5 seasons (whilst other teams from the Conference were immediately promoted again). His time was marked by totally inconsistency – we won a few games and when it seemed that we were about to embark on a good run, we would immediately lose a load of games. It was this total inconsistency which stopped Oxford from ever achieving the promotions that seemed highly likely at various stages in the season and Wilder was never able to find an answer to it. It should also be remembered that his dealings in the transfer market were completely disastrous – we either seemed to get other club’s underperforming rejects, or if they were genuinely potentially good players, he, Lewis and Melville would succeed in coaching them into bad ones. I don’t blame him at all for seeking security for his family, but it was HIS choice to leave – he could have decided to back himself to get us promoted (at which point he would undoubtedly have got the new contract and probably another 5 seasons regardless of subsequent performance) or he could duck the challenge and run for security elsewhere. He chose to run and that probably – as we are discovering now – shows how confident he actually was about ever achieving the promotion with this squad.
I totally agree, Wilder was the answer when he arrived and we were in the Conference, but he had his limitations once we came back into the league. He accepted the Chairman's offer at the end of last season for a 'rolling contarct' and chickened out halfway through. He knew what we all realise now that the squad he had assembled was just not good enough once we were reaching the second part of the season and went up against the better teams. The Chairman has disapointed us because of his failure to fill the gap quick enough, but for many to call for Waddock's sacking is a bit over the top. Like many I am amazed that he has failed to get us more than one win... At Plymouth, where the team looked a totally different outfit to what we have witnessed before and since, I was at the game and really thought we were turning round our fortunes. Why it has gome so wrong no one knows. As others have said, we need a huge clear out including Lewis and Melville, give the new man a real chance to assemble and coach a decent attractive team and hope that next year is going to be the one where we swap placed with those idiots from down the 420.
[quote][p][bold]Oxe[/bold] wrote: We need to give up this continuing preoccupation with Wilder. He is totally irrelevant to us now. He was an average manager – not that bad, not that good – who succeeded in achieving one promotion in 5 seasons (whilst other teams from the Conference were immediately promoted again). His time was marked by totally inconsistency – we won a few games and when it seemed that we were about to embark on a good run, we would immediately lose a load of games. It was this total inconsistency which stopped Oxford from ever achieving the promotions that seemed highly likely at various stages in the season and Wilder was never able to find an answer to it. It should also be remembered that his dealings in the transfer market were completely disastrous – we either seemed to get other club’s underperforming rejects, or if they were genuinely potentially good players, he, Lewis and Melville would succeed in coaching them into bad ones. I don’t blame him at all for seeking security for his family, but it was HIS choice to leave – he could have decided to back himself to get us promoted (at which point he would undoubtedly have got the new contract and probably another 5 seasons regardless of subsequent performance) or he could duck the challenge and run for security elsewhere. He chose to run and that probably – as we are discovering now – shows how confident he actually was about ever achieving the promotion with this squad.[/p][/quote]I totally agree, Wilder was the answer when he arrived and we were in the Conference, but he had his limitations once we came back into the league. He accepted the Chairman's offer at the end of last season for a 'rolling contarct' and chickened out halfway through. He knew what we all realise now that the squad he had assembled was just not good enough once we were reaching the second part of the season and went up against the better teams. The Chairman has disapointed us because of his failure to fill the gap quick enough, but for many to call for Waddock's sacking is a bit over the top. Like many I am amazed that he has failed to get us more than one win... At Plymouth, where the team looked a totally different outfit to what we have witnessed before and since, I was at the game and really thought we were turning round our fortunes. Why it has gome so wrong no one knows. As others have said, we need a huge clear out including Lewis and Melville, give the new man a real chance to assemble and coach a decent attractive team and hope that next year is going to be the one where we swap placed with those idiots from down the 420. dave from witney
  • Score: 11

8:22pm Mon 28 Apr 14

onthebench says...

It is quite incredible the amount of people blaming Waddock for this end of season collapse. If you have a job, I hope your employers are a bit more understanding than you all appear to be! The players are to blame for this and they will pay for it by being released. There is nothing certain in football, but I remain absolutely convinced that Waddock is a superb appointment and will prove it next season when he brings HIS players in. It's all about opinions, but I feel confident that all you doubters will be singing his praises by the end of September.
It is quite incredible the amount of people blaming Waddock for this end of season collapse. If you have a job, I hope your employers are a bit more understanding than you all appear to be! The players are to blame for this and they will pay for it by being released. There is nothing certain in football, but I remain absolutely convinced that Waddock is a superb appointment and will prove it next season when he brings HIS players in. It's all about opinions, but I feel confident that all you doubters will be singing his praises by the end of September. onthebench
  • Score: 5

9:21pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Doctor69 says...

onthebench wrote:
It is quite incredible the amount of people blaming Waddock for this end of season collapse. If you have a job, I hope your employers are a bit more understanding than you all appear to be! The players are to blame for this and they will pay for it by being released. There is nothing certain in football, but I remain absolutely convinced that Waddock is a superb appointment and will prove it next season when he brings HIS players in. It's all about opinions, but I feel confident that all you doubters will be singing his praises by the end of September.
I dont see too many blaming GW, in fact I think everyone is being pretty fair to the bloke. The results and performances have been dire, but people accept it's not his squad and he needs time. I do think without a good start come august the pressure will be on though.
[quote][p][bold]onthebench[/bold] wrote: It is quite incredible the amount of people blaming Waddock for this end of season collapse. If you have a job, I hope your employers are a bit more understanding than you all appear to be! The players are to blame for this and they will pay for it by being released. There is nothing certain in football, but I remain absolutely convinced that Waddock is a superb appointment and will prove it next season when he brings HIS players in. It's all about opinions, but I feel confident that all you doubters will be singing his praises by the end of September.[/p][/quote]I dont see too many blaming GW, in fact I think everyone is being pretty fair to the bloke. The results and performances have been dire, but people accept it's not his squad and he needs time. I do think without a good start come august the pressure will be on though. Doctor69
  • Score: 3

11:05am Tue 29 Apr 14

bigchet says...

well i see that le god seems to be very happy these days as we fail to make the playoffs. the fact that they seem to be in turmoil over the club ownership and the player they were hoping to build next terms team around is in trouble with the law once again doesnt exactly augur for a rosy future at the wiltshire wonderland. it seems inevitablethat ranger willj end up inside one day as he is clearly out of control and treats people who are prepared to give him yet another chance with contempt. so i would think that le god has very little to be smug about at this point in time.
well i see that le god seems to be very happy these days as we fail to make the playoffs. the fact that they seem to be in turmoil over the club ownership and the player they were hoping to build next terms team around is in trouble with the law once again doesnt exactly augur for a rosy future at the wiltshire wonderland. it seems inevitablethat ranger willj end up inside one day as he is clearly out of control and treats people who are prepared to give him yet another chance with contempt. so i would think that le god has very little to be smug about at this point in time. bigchet
  • Score: 1

12:26pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Chris Fyfe says...

Oxe wrote:
We need to give up this continuing preoccupation with Wilder. He is totally irrelevant to us now. He was an average manager – not that bad, not that good – who succeeded in achieving one promotion in 5 seasons (whilst other teams from the Conference were immediately promoted again). His time was marked by totally inconsistency – we won a few games and when it seemed that we were about to embark on a good run, we would immediately lose a load of games. It was this total inconsistency which stopped Oxford from ever achieving the promotions that seemed highly likely at various stages in the season and Wilder was never able to find an answer to it. It should also be remembered that his dealings in the transfer market were completely disastrous – we either seemed to get other club’s underperforming rejects, or if they were genuinely potentially good players, he, Lewis and Melville would succeed in coaching them into bad ones. I don’t blame him at all for seeking security for his family, but it was HIS choice to leave – he could have decided to back himself to get us promoted (at which point he would undoubtedly have got the new contract and probably another 5 seasons regardless of subsequent performance) or he could duck the challenge and run for security elsewhere. He chose to run and that probably – as we are discovering now – shows how confident he actually was about ever achieving the promotion with this squad.
Well by removing Wilder we have certainly removed the inconsistency problem!
[quote][p][bold]Oxe[/bold] wrote: We need to give up this continuing preoccupation with Wilder. He is totally irrelevant to us now. He was an average manager – not that bad, not that good – who succeeded in achieving one promotion in 5 seasons (whilst other teams from the Conference were immediately promoted again). His time was marked by totally inconsistency – we won a few games and when it seemed that we were about to embark on a good run, we would immediately lose a load of games. It was this total inconsistency which stopped Oxford from ever achieving the promotions that seemed highly likely at various stages in the season and Wilder was never able to find an answer to it. It should also be remembered that his dealings in the transfer market were completely disastrous – we either seemed to get other club’s underperforming rejects, or if they were genuinely potentially good players, he, Lewis and Melville would succeed in coaching them into bad ones. I don’t blame him at all for seeking security for his family, but it was HIS choice to leave – he could have decided to back himself to get us promoted (at which point he would undoubtedly have got the new contract and probably another 5 seasons regardless of subsequent performance) or he could duck the challenge and run for security elsewhere. He chose to run and that probably – as we are discovering now – shows how confident he actually was about ever achieving the promotion with this squad.[/p][/quote]Well by removing Wilder we have certainly removed the inconsistency problem! Chris Fyfe
  • Score: 2

1:48pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Fruit_Bat says...

LeGod wrote:
You picked a GREAT MANAGER to keep you down he did the same at Wycombe and got them relegated roll on next season to see you plummet down the leagues.

Happy Days seeing you suffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!

STFC

FOREVER IN OUR SHADOWS
Sure, you're in the higher division currently, but head-to-head remind me how many times have you actually beaten us this Century? You'll NEVER beat the Oxford!!
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: You picked a GREAT MANAGER to keep you down he did the same at Wycombe and got them relegated roll on next season to see you plummet down the leagues. Happy Days seeing you suffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! STFC FOREVER IN OUR SHADOWS[/p][/quote]Sure, you're in the higher division currently, but head-to-head remind me how many times have you actually beaten us this Century? You'll NEVER beat the Oxford!! Fruit_Bat
  • Score: 17

10:00pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Sid Snakey says...

I find it a bit rich that we are being told to "give up this continuing preoccupation with Wilder".

Up until the point that Wilder left, the "Wilder-Out" brigade were totally and utterly OBSESSED with Wilder. Every week they would be on here blaming Wilder for anything and everything they didn't like about the club, unless we had won of course in which they were strangely absent, only to return the next time there was something they could blame Wilder for.

And how certain they were that Wilder was holding us back, how confident they were that if Wilder could keep us at the top of this crap league for so long then a "proper" manager would walk it.

Now of course, having been proved totally and utterly WRONG, they don't want to be reminded that their actions have contributed to this season's total and utter disastrous conclusion.

As others have correctly pointed out, the players are now taking the blame for the ridiculous situation where they lose the manager they have had for 5 years, whilst near the top of the table, left with the clueless assistant manager, and then given a new manager once the season is all but gone. All along being criticized by a vocal section of fans who think they don't give a ****.

So sorry guys, there are reasons this season has ended up the total disaster it has been, and we are not going to conveniently erase our memories that it all started after Wilder left, just because you ask us to. It would have been nice if you could have "given up this continuing preoccupation with Wilder" back in January, and all got behind the club, the players, and yes the manager, when we had not been outside the top 7 all season and still with an unbeaten away record.
I find it a bit rich that we are being told to "give up this continuing preoccupation with Wilder". Up until the point that Wilder left, the "Wilder-Out" brigade were totally and utterly OBSESSED with Wilder. Every week they would be on here blaming Wilder for anything and everything they didn't like about the club, unless we had won of course in which they were strangely absent, only to return the next time there was something they could blame Wilder for. And how certain they were that Wilder was holding us back, how confident they were that if Wilder could keep us at the top of this crap league for so long then a "proper" manager would walk it. Now of course, having been proved totally and utterly WRONG, they don't want to be reminded that their actions have contributed to this season's total and utter disastrous conclusion. As others have correctly pointed out, the players are now taking the blame for the ridiculous situation where they lose the manager they have had for 5 years, whilst near the top of the table, left with the clueless assistant manager, and then given a new manager once the season is all but gone. All along being criticized by a vocal section of fans who think they don't give a ****. So sorry guys, there are reasons this season has ended up the total disaster it has been, and we are not going to conveniently erase our memories that it all started after Wilder left, just because you ask us to. It would have been nice if you could have "given up this continuing preoccupation with Wilder" back in January, and all got behind the club, the players, and yes the manager, when we had not been outside the top 7 all season and still with an unbeaten away record. Sid Snakey
  • Score: 6

11:23am Wed 30 Apr 14

LeGod says...

Oxokuba - you are laughable - Sorry what league are you in ?????

Waddock is taking you down that is guaranteed to happen. Your chairman took the cheap option for a manager and be prepared for the Wycombe players coming in during the summer the players that will take them to the conference and then you next.

For all your cocky messages this season about how you were going to win the league.
Your a small time club -always will be - you play in C*** colours - have three sides to your ground (non league standard) and your heading next season where you belong.
As for the idiot who said check the stats out between both our teams you obviously haven't as were way ahead in the win stakes against you Muppets.
Oxokuba - you are laughable - Sorry what league are you in ????? Waddock is taking you down that is guaranteed to happen. Your chairman took the cheap option for a manager and be prepared for the Wycombe players coming in during the summer the players that will take them to the conference and then you next. For all your cocky messages this season about how you were going to win the league. Your a small time club -always will be - you play in C*** colours - have three sides to your ground (non league standard) and your heading next season where you belong. As for the idiot who said check the stats out between both our teams you obviously haven't as were way ahead in the win stakes against you Muppets. LeGod
  • Score: -11

11:31am Wed 30 Apr 14

LeGod says...

Fruit_Bat - an appropriate name I feel for you.

So for the record for you as you don't know the facts:

Games played 56
Swindon Wins 23 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Draws 20
Losses 13 (just the mere 13 out of 56)

I think that says it all if you can understand the figures.

FOREVER IN OUR SHADOW.
STFC
Fruit_Bat - an appropriate name I feel for you. So for the record for you as you don't know the facts: Games played 56 Swindon Wins 23 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Draws 20 Losses 13 (just the mere 13 out of 56) I think that says it all if you can understand the figures. FOREVER IN OUR SHADOW. STFC LeGod
  • Score: -11

1:01pm Wed 30 Apr 14

sdyerUsa says...

A day Late and a Dollar short mate !!
A day Late and a Dollar short mate !! sdyerUsa
  • Score: 1

1:13pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Fruit_Bat says...

Oh dear, clearly illiterate.
What I actually said was "remind me how many times have you actually beaten us THIS CENTURY?"
I remember 5 September 2012 (W 1-0), 3 March 2012 (W 2-0), 21 August 2011 (really sweet, W 2-1 away. Ritchie was good (remember him?!) but not good enough).
Which recent encounters do you recall attending??
As for the C-unty Ground and Brazil playing in C*** colours, you poor fool.
The fact that you've got nothing better to do than troll here is all we need to know. It's nice to know you're here, now F--- Off!!
Oh dear, clearly illiterate. What I actually said was "remind me how many times have you actually beaten us THIS CENTURY?" I remember 5 September 2012 (W 1-0), 3 March 2012 (W 2-0), 21 August 2011 (really sweet, W 2-1 away. Ritchie was good (remember him?!) but not good enough). Which recent encounters do you recall attending?? As for the C-unty Ground and Brazil playing in C*** colours, you poor fool. The fact that you've got nothing better to do than troll here is all we need to know. It's nice to know you're here, now F--- Off!! Fruit_Bat
  • Score: 12

6:11pm Wed 30 Apr 14

LeGod says...

Hey Hey the chuckle brothers are back .

Your a League 2 side at best but your history is Non League the majority of the time.

As for Ritchie he is such a bad player according to you which is why he is now playing championship football - The normal Pox fan your used to seeing and playing Hoof ball and haven't seen proper football played for years now at your C****y little ground for years.
Calm down you mugs as Waddock says you a load of losers
Hey Hey the chuckle brothers are back . Your a League 2 side at best but your history is Non League the majority of the time. As for Ritchie he is such a bad player according to you which is why he is now playing championship football - The normal Pox fan your used to seeing and playing Hoof ball and haven't seen proper football played for years now at your C****y little ground for years. Calm down you mugs as Waddock says you a load of losers LeGod
  • Score: -7

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